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Have a Nice Day: The low cost and big dividends of wellness

March 28, 2023 33 Minute Listen

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Wellbeing has become increasingly important in return-to-office strategies. Delos’ Paul Scialla and Brookfield Properties’ Brian Pagac offer insights on how people, companies and buildings benefit from wellness initiatives and WELL certification.

Have a Nice Day: The low cost and big dividends of wellness

March 28, 2023 33 Minute Listen


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Brian Pagac

Vice President of Engineering, Brookfield Properties

Brian is responsible for ESG-related initiatives in Los Angeles for Brookfield Properties, which owns more than $30 billion in real estate assets. In his role, he develops new processes and procedures, identifies sustainable opportunities, analyzes new commercial development and acquisition opportunities and investigates new emerging technologies. In 2019, Brian was awarded the Executive of the Year by Greater Los Angeles BOMA.

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Paul Scialla

CEO, Delos

After 18 years on Wall Street, including 10 at Goldman Sachs as a Partner, Paul had a realization: the real estate industry was heavily focused on how buildings impacted the environment, but no one was focusing on how buildings impacted the occupants within. With wellness simultaneously the fastest-growing industry, Paul founded Delos with a mission to transform indoor environments into catalysts for better health and well-being. As CEO, Paul is responsible for setting the strategic vision for Delos and has led the company through nearly a decade of tremendous growth, helping to improve indoor environments across the world such as offices, schools, homes, hotels, and beyond. Paul is also the founder of the International WELL Building Institute (IWBI), which administers the WELL Building Standard® globally to improve human health and well-being through indoor environments.


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Spencer Levy

Global Client Strategist & Senior Economic Advisor, CBRE

Spencer Levy is Global Client Strategist and Senior Economic Advisor for CBRE, the largest commercial real estate services firm in the world. In this role, he focuses on client engagement and public-facing activities, including thought leadership work performed in conjunction with CBRE Research. He also serves as Co-Chair of the Real Estate Roundtable’s Research Committee.


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